Financial assistance options

Financial assistance options

No matter what type of health insurance your patient has, they may have options to help them afford their medicine. Options may be available to your patient even if they have no insurance at all.

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If you would rather talk through some potential options, call us at 866-4ACCESS (866-422-2377) (9AM-8PM ET, Monday through Friday).

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Help With Co-pay Costs

These programs help your patient pay for Evrysdi if they have insurance but still need help with costs:

Help With Costs for Evrysdi

Co-pay Card Assistance

With the Evrysdi Co-pay Program, eligible patients with commercial insurance could pay as little as $0 per 30-day supply of Evrysdi. The rest of your co-pay or co-insurance is covered, up to $25,000 in assistance per calendar year.

Your patient may be eligible if they:

  • Are taking Evrysdi for an FDA-approved use
  • Are 18 years of age or older or have a Legally Authorized Person over the age of 18 to manage the program
  • Have commercial (private or non-governmental) insurance. This includes plans available through state and federal health insurance exchanges
  • Live and receive treatment in the United States or U.S. Territories
  • Are not receiving assistance through the Genentech Patient Foundation or any other charitable organization for the same expenses covered by the program
  • Do not use a state or federal healthcare plan to pay for your medication. This includes, but is not limited to, Medicare, Medicaid and TRICARE

The Co-pay Program (“Program”) is valid ONLY for patients with commercial (private or non-governmental) insurance who have a valid prescription for a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved indication of a Genentech medicine. Patients using Medicare, Medicaid or any other federal or state government program (collectively, “Government Programs”) to pay for their Genentech medicine are not eligible.

Under the Program, the patient may be required to pay a co-pay. The final amount owed by a patient may be as little as $0 for the Genentech medicine (see Program specific details available at the Program website). The total patient out-of-pocket cost is dependent on the patient’s health insurance plan. The Program assists with the cost of the Genentech medicine only. It does not assist with the cost of other medicines, procedures or office visit fees. After reaching the maximum annual Program benefit amount, the patient will be responsible for all remaining out-of-pocket expenses. The Program benefit amount cannot exceed the patient’s out-of-pocket expenses for the Genentech medicine.

All participants are responsible for reporting the receipt of all Program benefits as required by any insurer or by law. The Program is only valid in the United States and U.S. Territories, is void where prohibited by law and shall follow state restrictions in relation to AB-rated generic equivalents (e.g., MA, CA) where applicable. No party may seek reimbursement for all or any part of the benefit received through the Program. The value of the Program is intended exclusively for the benefit of the patient. The funds made available through the Program may only be used to reduce the out-of-pocket costs for the patient enrolled in the Program. The Program is not intended for the benefit of third parties, including without limitation third party payers, pharmacy benefit managers, or their agents. If Genentech determines that a third party has implemented a program that adjusts patient cost-sharing obligations based on the availability of support under the Program and/or excludes the assistance provided under the Program from counting towards the patient’s deductible or out-of-pocket cost limitations, Genentech may impose a per fill cap on the cost-sharing assistance available under the Program. Submission of true and accurate information is a requirement for eligibility and Genentech reserves the right to disqualify patients who do not comply from Genentech programs. Genentech reserves the right to rescind, revoke or amend the Program without notice at any time.

Additional terms and conditions apply. Please visit the Co-pay Program website for the full list of Terms and Conditions.

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Independent Co-pay Assistance

An independent co-pay assistance foundation is a charitable organization providing financial assistance to patients with specific disease states, regardless of treatment. Patients who are commercially or publicly insured, including those covered by Medicare and Medicaid, can contact the foundations directly to request assistance. Eligibility requirements, all aspects of the application process, turnaround times and the type or amount of assistance available (if any) can vary by foundation. 

These foundations may be able to help. Please check their websites for up-to-date information.

Advise your patient that these organizations are independent of Genentech and may require the patient to provide personal or financial information directly to the organization to enroll in their respective programs. Genentech cannot share any information the patient has provided to us.

Independent co-pay assistance foundations have their own rules for eligibility. We have no involvement or influence in independent foundation decision-making or eligibility criteria and do not know if a foundation will be able to help your patient. We can only refer your patient to a foundation that supports their disease state. This information is provided as a resource for you. We do not endorse or show preference for any particular foundation. The foundations in this list may not be the only ones that might be able to help your patient.


Genentech Patient Foundation

If patients don’t have health insurance coverage for Evrysdi or have financial concerns and meet eligibility criteria, this program may help:

Genentech Patient Foundation

The Genentech Patient Foundation gives free Evrysdi to people who have been prescribed this medicine and don’t have insurance or that have financial concerns and meet certain eligibility criteria.

Your patient may be eligible if their insurance coverage and income match one of these situations:

  • Uninsured patients with incomes under $150,000
  • Insured patients without coverage for Evrysdi with incomes under $150,000
  • Insured patients with coverage for a Genentech medicine:
    • With an out-of-pocket maximum set by their health insurance plan that exceeds 7.5% of their household income
    • With household size and income within certain guidelines

For any of these situations, add $25,000 for each extra person in households larger than 4 people.

We encourage insured patients to try other financial assistance options before applying for help from the Genentech Patient Foundation, if possible.

Enrollment Process for the Genentech Patient Foundation

Get started with enrollment by following the steps below.

Option 1: Submit online

If your practice has a registered account for My Patient Solutions, you can get started by logging into your account.

Don't have an account?

Your patient is required to complete the Patient Consent Form. You can either upload their Patient Consent Form as part of your application or have your patient submit the form via fax, text or e-submit.

  • An online tool to help you enroll patients in MySMA Support™ and manage your service requests at your convenience.

Option 2: Print & fax or text

Step 1: Print one of the Patient Consent Forms below for your patient to complete.

Step 2: Print and complete the Prescriber Foundation Form below.

Step 3: Submit the completed forms via fax or text.

Both forms are required. We must have both the Patient Consent Form and the Prescriber Foundation Form before we can help you. 

What to expect next:

  • The request will be processed within five business days upon receipt of both required forms.
  • Your office will be contacted to discuss any next steps.

If you have any questions about the criteria, please contact a Foundation Specialist at 888-941-3331 (Monday - Friday, 9 AM - 8 PM ET).


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  • Commercial insurance: An insurance plan you get from a private health insurance company. This can be insurance from your job, from a plan you bought yourself or from a Health Insurance Marketplace. Medicare and Medicaid are not considered commercial insurance. 

  • Public insurance: A health insurance plan you get from the federal or state government. This includes Medicare, Medicaid, TRICARE and DoD/VA insurance.

  • For example, a household size of 1 with income of less than $75,000 may meet the criteria for assistance. Add $25,000 for each additional person in the household. There is no maximum number of people you may add.

Important Safety Information and Indication

Indication

Evrysdi is indicated for the treatment of spinal muscular atrophy (SMA) in pediatric and adult patients.

 

Interactions with Substrates of MATE Transporters

  • Based on in vitro data, Evrysdi may increase plasma concentrations of drugs eliminated via MATE1 or MATE2-K, such as metformin
  • Avoid coadministration of Evrysdi with MATE (multidrug and toxin extrusion) substrates. If coadministration cannot be avoided, monitor for drug-related toxicities and consider dosage reduction of the coadministered drug if needed

Pregnancy & Breastfeeding

  • Evrysdi may cause embryofetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman. In animal studies, administration of Evrysdi during pregnancy and/or lactation resulted in adverse effects on development. Advise pregnant women of the potential risk to the fetus
  • Pregnancy testing is recommended prior to initiating Evrysdi. Advise female patients to use contraception during treatment with Evrysdi and for at least 1 month after the last dose
  • There is a pregnancy exposure registry that monitors pregnancy and fetal/neonatal/infant outcomes in women exposed to Evrysdi during pregnancy. Physicians are encouraged to register patients and pregnant women are encouraged to register themselves by calling 1-833-760-1098 or visiting www.evrysdipregnancyregistry.com
  • The developmental and health benefits of breastfeeding should be considered along with the mother’s clinical need for Evrysdi and any potential adverse effects on the breastfed infant

Potential Effects on Male Fertility

  • Counsel male patients that fertility may be compromised by treatment with Evrysdi. Male patients may consider sperm preservation prior to treatment

Most Common Adverse Reactions

  • The most common adverse reactions in later-onset SMA (incidence in at least 10% of patients treated with Evrysdi and more frequent than control) were fever, diarrhea, and rash
  • The most common adverse reactions in infantile-onset SMA were similar to those observed in later-onset SMA patients. Additionally, adverse reactions with an incidence of at least 10% were upper respiratory tract infection (including nasopharyngitis, rhinitis), lower respiratory tract infection (including pneumonia, bronchitis), constipation, vomiting, and cough
  • The safety profile for presymptomatic patients is consistent with the safety profile for symptomatic SMA patients treated with Evrysdi in clinical trials

You may report side effects to the FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088 or www.fda.gov/medwatch. You may also report side effects to Genentech at 1-888-835-2555.

Please see full Prescribing Information for additional Important Safety Information.

 

 

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